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  • Tawny

    oh cool! Thanks Marie!
  • Angela

    Does anyone ever experience actual pain on their scalps? I get pain, which feels like my hair actually hurts at the roots, on the top of my head sometimes. It feels as though my hair is being pulled to the wrong side if that makes any sense..i've tried multiple ways at parting it, but it still seems to hurt.
  • Marie

    I know exactly what you are talking about. ilthough It doesn't happen for extended periods of time or always in the same place, it does hurt in that weird way you described. I have no idea what it is. I've never had long hair and currently my hair is buzzed to about 1/4 inch, so I don't know if it's worse with long hair. Sorry I can only sympathize.
  • Bluebird

    I had the same pain this summer, and it just started again. It feels like someone is pulling my hair out, and if I try to part it different, it hurts even more. I was walking round with a bag of frozen peas on my head a lot this summer. I thought I was the only one, it seemed that scalp pain was associated more with other types of alopecia. So I was very confused. It seems to correspond to more hair loss with me too.
  • Angela

    The pain is so irritating because it is a constant reminder that my hair is falling out. I like wearing headbands, but I am afraid because I feel like I'm causing more hair to fall out because of the pain. I wonder if there is anything a doctor can do for it. My hair texture has also changed a lot..it's getting increasingly more and more coarse and dry. I'm really self conscious about it.
  • Angela

    I'm really weird about the things I do to my hair because I am afraid I cause more to fall out..but I guess now I don't have to worry so much. I'll have to look around at target for soft ones, I do love them (:

    I'm going to look up that shampoo, too..have you ever tried Nioxin? I had the supplements once, but they were basically a multivitamin and they were 20 bucks..so I switched to prenatal vitamins..they seem to make my hair grow faster, but not thicker..
  • LA

    I'm sorry to hear that other people have pain, but feel a sense of vaildation that I'm not the only one. There doesn't seem to be much acknowledgement of the burning sensation, the feeling that someone is sticking a pin in spots on top of your head or pain with brushing or trying to change the part. I have felt all of those things! And have been disbelieved!
  • Tiffany P

    just wanted to say hello to everyone, i too find it hard sometimes to comb my hair i asked the derm and she had no idea. but i too am glad im not the only one because i thought it was just me. i also have psoriasis which makes it even more annoying but nizarol helps, well have a great week all :o)
  • Ebasha

    I too have this pain all the time, it's like my head is reminding me that my hair is thin. But I've lost my hair a long time ago, it's been 15 years or more when my hair stopeed thinning, because it could not thin anymore. But the pain is still there, when I brush my hair or when I try to change the part. Also I had to switch to full wigs instead of hair pieces for years now, because I cannot attach anything to my head. I thought I was doing something wrong, I'm surprised to know that others have felt this too. Although I am really sorry guys that anyone feels that pain, sometimes it drives me mad.
  • Jo Jo

    Hi Eba, I had this problem before as well and boy was I sensitive. What brang me relief was switching shampoo and condtioner and WHAT A DIFFERENCE! I use Alchohol free shampoo- organic actually and free of Sulfites (which is horrible on the scalp) it is enriched with Plant Proteins, Ginseng and Chamomile- to help calm my scalp. Its made by J/A/S/O/N and is called Biotin Shampoo. I think that it might also have a lavendar oil in it that helped me with my Seb . derm which was also ALSO a factor in my sensitivity. So overall I am still sensitive but no half as much! I also make sure to massage my scalp every now and again in an effort to desensitize it and it brings me relief. On weekends I also make sure to clip it in the opposite direction from my usual part- if I have to clip it at all. Hope this helps sweety, and good luck:D
  • Jo Jo

    Hello ladies.... I know I have been away for some while but i just wanted to try some New things before I came on to this site. The shampoo that I used prior made by J/A/S/O/N has been a thing of the past for some time now and do have some new recommendations that have given me result. If interested just send me an email. Yohanyjojo@aol.com
  • Kate

    Hi ladies. I am dying to know how many of you have resorted to shaving your heads, and what your experience has been. I am becoming more and more comfortable with the idea of buzzing my hair down to a super short fuzz and wearing scarves and hats and maybe even wigs (undecided on the wigs part). But, what I really want to know is how FPB top thinning looks with a short buzz (If at all possible I want to avoid the look of male pattern baldness, for my husband's sake). So, if any of you buzz or shave please contact me with a message. I would really value your experience and advice. Thanks! - Kate
  • Kate

    new stylist + new found awareness of thin hair + pending haircut = very nervous Kate

    I need some advice from fellow diffused thinning sufferers. How do you style your hair. What are the pros and cons of your cut, and how has short hair aided and abated, or worsened, your hairstyle and your self image? Is anyone willing to share photos? And finally, any tips or advice for working with a stylist on this thinning issue?
  • Mhairi

    I tended to keep to the same hairdresser, so I didn't have to have the "thin hair" conversation every time I went in. But when I took my little guy for a cut at a new hairdresser, she asked me if I had alopecia. I knew I had female pattern baldness, my own diagnosis, but didn't know it was a form of alopecia. I'm so glad she suggested I see a doctor for it.
    What I need now is a good stylist who can cut a wig!
  • Lexi

    Comment to Kate on question below re: shaving your head or buzz cutting it...My personal opinion that is only correct for ME personally is....My FPB is diffuse, the nape is totally gone ...so how do I style my hair?? Let's see...I don't...I just wash carefully, dry carefully, comb out carefully, and go...I am afraid to even attempt to do anything to my hair lest I lose more of it..Sad, right? I cut off some almost monthly, but cannot go really short, as...nape is gone..I imagine if it thinned alot more, I would be tempted to just cut it really really short..but I don't think I could ever buzz it totally ...unless I had the most gorgeous vacumm wig and wanted to wear it exclusively. I don't want to see myself in the mirror like that, so even thin as it is, I am grateful for what I still have left, and pray every night it grows back in...prayer never could hurt, right? Or at least that I retain what I still have
  • Christy Ingram

    Hi, I am new to AW. I have AGA or FPB. I got fed up with not being able to do anything with what I had left, shaved it off Sunday down to an 1/8". I don't hardly have any (hair) but my head isn't quite completely smooth. I have a nice tan on the top of my head. I am wearing a wigs when I am out in public, I didn't have enough hair for topper/extensions etc..So I thought what the heck? I am new to all this, but not battling thin hair. It is almost somewhat of a relief to not be shedding anymore of what I had left....
  • Kate

    I am coming up on my 29th birthday this week and starting to feel old. I pulled through some old college and early 20's photos and felt nostalgic, especially for all that fabulous hair! Who would have guessed I would be dealing with thinning hair so young. But then again, I realize youthful beauty is fleeting for everyone, whether it is loosing our firm thighs and bellies with age (and maybe motherhood), acquiring laugh lines and fine wrinkles, dealing with graying hairs, or like me experiencing early hair loss. So in many ways my experience is not exclusive or solitary. And of course, changes in appearance over time reflect great growth and development inside. I would not trade my life experiences for a youthful appearance. So this week, I will welcome by birthday and my age and even do my best to accept the hair loss. As my dad says with every birthday "Hey, it beats the alternative!"

    A thanks to the supporters on this site for your support in reaching (and maintaining) these healthy perspectives. It means so much to have a community of like minded, sympathetic, and motivating supporters.
  • Christy Ingram

    Do any of you who have been diagnosed with AGA or FPB have thinning eyebrows? My right brow is almost all but gone. I have never really had nice thick brows. I am wondering if this is part of the Female Alopecia or maybe I am developing another type?
  • Christy Ingram

    Susan, TY I only just now noticed your reply. I have never really had thick hair or brows. In the last couple of years have had at quite a few thyroid tests, I am not sure how extensive they were...I've tried all kinds of medications and vitamins etc. I even had a hysterectomy three yrs ago, because of fibroids and low ferratin/iron levels. Right now I feel like all they are doing is "practicing" medicine....
  • Kate

    Hi ladies. I just wanted to swing in and say hello, and offer a bit of thanks during this season. Over the summer, when I fully realized the extent of my hair loss, I was feeling devastated and overwhelmed. I had no idea what to do or where to go to help me with my emotions. Then I found this site, and the process of seeing so many women with all states of hairloss sharing in my feelings, and thriving and enjoying life with all states of hair felt so meaningful. It has made all the difference in coming to terms and being able to see myself as a successful and beautiful person with or without hair, and at every state in between. So thank you.
  • Kate

    This is such a quiet group of ladies. :) Any chance I can rile you all into some converstaion, about hair or other things...? What are you asking Santa for this Christmas. I am asking for a new yoga mat, and maybe some earrings.

  • Nesha B.

    Hey!  I was diagnosed with FPB in July and I have been really quiet about it.  I shaved my hair in October, but it has grown back and is mostly see through at the crown and top.  I have been reading about the laser therapy getting fda approval and I want a laser comb for Christmas.  They are just so expensive.  Anyone else tried it?

  • Dora Mares

    i want a new wig for christmas! my 2 current ones are beginning to become a tangled mess!
  • Flip Flop

    Hi all :)
  • Amy

    I'm coming to you with a question. Here's some back ground info. Was diagnosed with AGA/Chronic TE almost 3 years ago. I was going through a major stress in my life and my hair started to fall out, I has IBS and lost about 10 pounds. The dermatologist did some blood work and a hair pull test and tada.. AGA. He put me on spironolactone 100mg and rogain mens morning and night. To make a long story short The shedding went crazy after starting the rogaine and hasn't stopped since. I went to one day on the rogaine due to all the itching and pain from it.. more shedding... stopped rogaine and spiro last dec 2010 and the shedding right now ( started in march) is crazy bad. 500+ on a shower day and 60+ on a non shower day. looking back I wish I had never jumped on the rogaine train, its side effects have done more harm than good. My Question is this, The derm has suggest me trying propecia 5mg daily. I am scared to try it... scared to not try it. Has anyone here ever been on Propecia? Any luck? Bad reactions? I am down to 40% or less of what I used to have 3 yrs ago. The hairs start to grow and they fall out at 1-2" long. I don't think I can take another shed on top of the one I'm in, wont have anything left :). At my next appt I am going to demand a biopsy. I think I may have the diffuse AA. I have more hair on the top and one side that I do on the back of my head and one side. I know that the treatments are different for both and want to do what is best. I am so tempted to shave it off. The stress from 3 years ago is gone and this has now taken its place. Its taking over my life. Trying to stay positive but don't want to do more harm. I still feel the burning from the rogaine occasionally and its been 6 months! Please HELP!! LOL
  • Kate

    Amy - The cycle can be so hard. I know the stress and concern you feel and I am sorry this has been such a stressful situation. Everyone is different in their decisions, but for me, I am opting to stay away from chemical and medical treatments for my hair loss. After research and paying attention to personal stories offered here at Alopecia World and elsewhere, I am confident that there are no true success stories for treating androgenic alopecia or other types of alopecia. The drugs seem to do more harm and have more side effects than they do positive results. I wish there were a magic fix, even a painful or expensive one, but in my experience the best treatment is finding an alternative to your own hair. For some, that's a beautiful wig, for others its scarves and accessories, and for others its shaving and going without.

    The other thing I swear by is DermMatch. That stuff conceals my thin areas so well that I no longer fret about folks seeing my scalp. Until the day when my hair loss is beyond hiding and I shave, DermMatch is my secret weapon. It won't grow the hair back, but it gives me time and freedom to figure out the best long term course of action for me.

    Keep in touch and explore this site. I found knowing other people had the same feelings and worries and successes as me to be liberating. Best of luck to you.
  • Amy

    Thanks! I stopped everything in december to do just that, just my vitamins and keeping my body healthy. I have my bad days where I wish I could just take a pill and make the last 3 years of hairloss go away, and that is what the dr is telling me to try. I will have to try your secret derm match. I need to do something, I am just not patient :) Not a lot of support on the home front and that makes it hard as well. Thanks!
  • Mhairi

    I just bought some DermMatch Kate. Thanks for the advice! I have a couple of great wigs, but I'd rather be wig free if I can. Lets hope it works for me too!
  • Amy

    I'm going to try the dermMatch too. I wanted you to know that some of these treatments do work. The rogaine was regrowing my hair. I couldn't handle the dermatitis it caused and the itching and burning. They say I had contact dermatitis due to using the rogaine. My sister also had a bout of AA during a stressful time and had 2 big spots on the back of her head. She got the steroid injections and in 6 months they grew in and it has been 3 yrs with no reappearances since. Who's to say why it works for some and not for others...Today is a new day and I am going to smile and have a good one. Hope all of you have a good day too! Don't lose the hope :)
  • Nancy King

    Hello everyone
    I'm trying the Rogaine for a few months just to see if any of the traction hair loss i experienced will come back. That's what i get for trying to hide who i am. A lesson i hope i won't forget. If it doesn't work, I expect i'll prepare my family, shave my head bald, and write "SPACE AVAILABLE" on my noggin and see how it goes :)
  • NYCGirlie

    Amy do NOT use propecia! I have AGA nad my dr also said to use rogaine for regrowth and propecia to stop the sheds. I did research and refuse to use either! Like you said, rogaine can trigger excessive sheds. I read that means its working but may people felt hey made it worse. Research propecia online. The maker's label says not intended for women. I have read side effects like birth defects, internal bleeding, breast growth, headaches, allergic reactions, heart palpatations, emotional swings, anxiety and even suicides. I also have AGA and rather lose my hair and wear a wig! Have you tried low laser therapy? I havent done anything yet since the medications can do more harm than good
  • Amy

    I also have decided against any oral or topical medications. The side effects of both are not worth the risk. I will admit on my bad days I sure wish that there was a pill that could magically take all of this away. I also went to a derm who now says that I don't have AGA I have chronic TE. They can have the same horrifying results. I am trying to get some stomach issues under control. When I am under stress I internalize everything and then I get IBS. I have had chronic IBS for 3 yrs now and they are worried its turning into Crohns disease or colitis. This also triggers my TE sheds hence the chronic TE. I just need to get my stress in life under control... haha :) I have started a lazer therapy with the derm and got succored into buying a lazer for home use. The derm is 1hr away and the 3 times weekly for the in house lazer treatment is just too much for me to drive. This also is a commitment. If it helps I will have to maintain the growth using the lazer once a week for ever. I feel like this is doable esp if I can do it in my own home. After all the yuck with topicals I am going with the lazer and taking my vitamins. I am doing all I can on my end with exercise and eating right and trying to destress so we will see what happens! Have you ever tried the lazer thing? Thanks for all of the support and advice! You are all beautiful!!
  • Jennah

    I have a question. I am on spironolactone 100mg and am experiencing dry scalp. Its kind of lik small chunks of white skin that flake off near the root of the hair, just small but anoyting and confusing. Has anyone else experienced this and does anyone know how to combat this??

  • Amy

    I was on spironolactone for over a year. Its also used as a diuretic or a water pill for those that retain water. It dries everything out! My skin everywhere was so dry. Make sure you drink a lot of water to replace the water the medication flushes out. I had to pee all the time when I was on it. Good luck! It never helped with my hair loss, it actually made things worse for me. The dry skin made the rogaine irritate my scalp and then I got psoriasis on my scalp as well. It also made me feel tired all of the time and being a very active person, it was very difficult. Since stopping both the spiro and rogaine my scalp has cleared up of the dry skin and psoriasis is under control. Good luck!

  • Figarosmom

    I am only taking a small amount of spironolactone and it is cause dry scalp for me too. Not as bad as yours because the dose isn't as high, but still. Ugh. In winter it's the last thing you need. Ditto on the bathroom. ROFL. Sometimes I am like "what the heck" I don't take mine for hair loss, I take it for blood pressure. I can't take the other water pills used for BP anymore because they cause me to loose too much potassium...ah drugs. Such a pain. However, I don't do anything with minoxidil or drugs for my hair loss either. I just don't believe they are effective enough to warrant taking them. The medical community has a long way to go on this front.

  • Jennah

    At this stage I am not sure if the spiro is helpig or not I'm just trying to persist as I want it to so badly. Any other thoughts would be apppreciated :)

  • Kate

    Jennah - I know this can be so hard, and I fully know your feeling of just wanting to be able to fix the hair loss so badly. It is painfully frustrating to feel like there are not options to fix this - I am mean, mankind has figured out how to transplants hearts and send folks to the moon - you would think we could make hair grow. But I remind myself all the time that there is currently no easy fix.

    I've said this on this forum before, but I think it deserves to be said again... Everyone is different in their decisions, but for me, I am opting to stay away from chemical and medical treatments for my hair loss. After research and paying attention to personal stories offered here at Alopecia World and elsewhere, I am confident that there are no true success stories for treating androgenic alopecia or other types of alopecia. The drugs seem to do more harm and have more side effects than they do positive results.

    In my experience the best treatment is finding an alternative to your own hair. For some, that's a beautiful wig, for others its scarves and accessories, and for others its shaving and going without. I think that sticking around this site and getting to know some of the beautiful confident women who have moved through this struggle themselves might be helpful for you. It certainly has been for me.

    We are here for you!

  • Amy

    I think that with certain meds you really have to see if the proposed gain is worth all of the side effects. I have low blood pressure so the 100mg of spiro really gave me more issues to deal with on top of the hair still falling out. I was on it for 1 1/2 yrs and really didn't see any significant growth or stopping of the shedding. I am the type of person that really wanted to believe that there was a magic pill or shampoo, whatever that would take all of this away!!! Going down that path I only wasted a lot of money, disappointments and heartache when I didn't get the results I wanted. I am now on nothing but vitamins that everyone should take to be healthy and I am using a lazer that I can use in my own home. I feel safer with this because I am not ingesting anything. I don't know if it is working, the shedding is very slowly slowing down but I try not to focus on it, haha. I know that it is easier said then done :) The only problem with meds if u have to be on them forever or once you stop all of the hair you gained falls out along with more!! I mentally can't take that anymore. I wish you the best and hope you get what you want out of it!

  • Marie

    I couldn't agree more with Kate. Well said. Rather than hair growth, I think inner peace ought to be the goal.
  • Amy

    SO TRUE!!! I think that putting too much focus on it makes it bigger and can take over your life. I have started exercising very regularly and do yoga. I focus on what makes me feel peace and happiness...my children,our beautiful world, gardening, etc. I still have my bad days where I think life sucks but they are few and far between now that I have taken the focus off my hair and just enjoying life and the joys it can bring. I go to a gym and used to be so worried about what people would think, so I would never go and was a hermit for so long. Now I have a beautifully toned body by going to classes at the gym and I just went skiing last week.The mountains were amazing!!! I want to be the best me I can be with or without hair :)

  • HBLady

    Hi. I'm new to this site and so far I seem to feel the most connection with this group. I haven't been diagnosed with FPB - I'm simply an old Black woman (heh!). But I do have little bald spots that have gotten worse on the top of my head over the past few years (and yes, lots of stress during that time - divorced and my mom died, etc.). Since I haven't seen a post here since January, I'm wondering if any of you are still visiting, or if you're off happily sporting your new wigs? Would love to hear if anyone tried the malaria drug Doxycycline (although it might be a scarring alopecia drug, which is what I think I have). Pam

  • LilyBell*Murphy'sLawLuvsMe

    HBlady a topper may be a good option - they sell them with clip and there is a topper group on here and the lady who started it is VERY knowledgable about toppers and wigs. Also get a scalp biopsy to confirm your diagnosis - I had two and both were painless and TINY - like one stitch to close. I think Doxy is an anitbotic but I could be wrong -

  • Kate

    Hi HBLady - Glad you have joined us. This group has been quiet, but I still stop in from time to time. When I first became aware of my FPB it was a very upsetting time. When I found this site I spent maybe a month super active reading forums and chatting with other members and looking at photos and getting all the info and support I could find. Finding this community really helped me find a peace and comfort with my hair situation. Since that time, I have been less drawn to log in and start discussions, because life feels so much more normal and better now that I know I am not alone (and that is a great thing!). I have a feeling that my participation with the site is something many others go through as well. So, in summary, we are not gone but perhaps many of us are feeling more comfortable with ourselves and therefore less engaged online. That said, you should ALWAYS feel free to start discussions and reach out. That is what we are all here for, even if it's quiet lately. Welcome!

  • Tiffany P

    Its been forever since i have logged in and had anything to say mainly because i am still trying to find solutions and move on with my life. i still read the blogs and look at the beautiful pictures that are posted but dont always find the need to log on. this place has helped me to realize there is a life after hairloss but it is still hard at times. hope all is well with everyone :o)

  • HBLady

    Hi, all. Happy Memorial Day weekend! Thanks to those of you who posted to let me know you're still here. It's a REALLY big comfort knowing others are out there who have similar feelings as mine. So many of my friends tell me they don't see my hair loss and I'm "so beautiful" that it's not an issue. It's just great knowing people here understand the strong feelings and frustrations generated by hair loss. Just got my hair cut Friday and I look a little "butch" now. I have a concert next week and I'm feeling nervous about being in front of people not completely comfortable with my image, but it is what it is. Someone on this site asked me last week how I feel about it, and I realized that I feel a loss of control. I am overweight, but I feel I DO have power over that (eat less, exercise more - see results). Nothing I do gives me any control over my hair loss - that's the worst part of it. Sorry for going on about it, but I guess I needed to spill! Best to you all. Pam

  • Larry Barbee

    Hi everyone,
    I've been away for some time and I just wanted to let my friends in the group know I'm back.
    God bless,
    Larry

  • Jennah

    Hi just wondering if anyone here has had any success with Rogaine?

  • Renee

    Hi Jennah,
    I have been using Rogaine (the men's foam 5%)forabout 4 years. My hair loss got much worse within the past year and I have no idea if the Rogaine is still working. During the first year or 2, I think that it did slow down the hair loss and perhaps resulted in a bit of regrowth.
    Renee

  • Jennah

    thanks Renee. Yes I do think I am getting a little regrowth, but very little at this stage. The other thing I wanted to ask people here is . Do you guys get a lot of itching and any scalp pain. The scalp pain for me comes and goes and I get these sore patches. The itching sometimes is really bad but other times less so. What are other peoples experiences round these two things? and do you do anything to try and combat these issues? I would appreciate any feedback guys :) cheers

  • Kirsten

    I get both but I don't do anything specific to treat them. I asked my GP, Derm and Endocrinologist what they were and none of them knew.